I'm not moving to jeffco county

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Re: I'm not moving to jeffco county

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The Mirror wrote:I said name one

Still waiting....
you're starting to sound and debate like the ol looney guitar player lady.

Taxes and regulations? duh. my name is NN

Like allowing unlimited free open camping throughout the cities. Riots and vandals looting the city unchecked, no rule of law. Mandated $15 min wage clobbering small businesses. Arbitrary Taxes on big employers to pay for giveaways. There... that is at least four items, so stfu already.

And besides, the NW rainy weather totally sucks anyway.
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Josey wrote:I find it funny when I hear people worried about local politics when they decide a place to live. I've heard it a lot recently too from people on the left usually.

It isn't something I put at #1 on the list, but I would always consider taxes and overall regulatory sanity. Meaning Portland and Seattle are definitely out of the running, especially the weather too. However I wouldn't rule out Boulder, and I did live there once when I was younger. It was fine unless you wanted to buy a starter house.
I am looking hard at everything about a county and government. My city is the worst and is a big part of why I am moving and I want to be sure I move somewhere where they have my values. I hate Centennial government. I used to be unincorporated and they were so much better before we got taken over by crappy Centennial.
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Cinnamongirl wrote:
Josey wrote:I find it funny when I hear people worried about local politics when they decide a place to live. I've heard it a lot recently too from people on the left usually.

It isn't something I put at #1 on the list, but I would always consider taxes and overall regulatory sanity. Meaning Portland and Seattle are definitely out of the running, especially the weather too. However I wouldn't rule out Boulder, and I did live there once when I was younger. It was fine unless you wanted to buy a starter house.
I am looking hard at everything about a county and government. My city is the worst and is a big part of why I am moving and I want to be sure I move somewhere where they have my values. I hate Centennial government. I used to be unincorporated and they were so much better before we got taken over by crappy Centennial.
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Jeffco, Lakewood and Golden are ok. I like the open spaces and parks, bear creek. So far taxes are still reasonable thanks to the voters and Tabor. And traffic is ok if you avoid Wadsworth. Bike paths are good too.

shhhhh...don't tell hecuklebarry though, we don't need any troublemaker hillbillies from burland moving in. shhhhhh! quiet. :lol:
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Josey wrote:Jeffco, Lakewood and Golden are ok. I like the open spaces and parks, bear creek. So far taxes are still reasonable thanks to the voters and Tabor.
Choosing the right municipality in a metro area is very important to me- and it should be a top priority for more people. To me it's more important than being close to work or even which school district you are in. Your kids will eventually move away, but you may be there for life!

Living inside a City adds many thousands of dollars in additional costs that most people overlook. Cities are a additional layer of government on top of the County government. They have additional taxes, both property and sales taxes that will add up over the years. They have additional zoning restrictions, rules and regulations. They usually have city employees who have nothing to do but hassle residents about parking their cars on the street, about the length of your lawn etc.. etc.. You will also be paying for a Mayor, City council, and various City departments that are mostly not necessary. The Bureaucratic Bull$hit involved with a City government alone is worth avoiding.

Josey says Lakewood and Golden are "OK". Not for me. While they are in Jefferson County, they are additional layers of government that can be totally avoided if you just move to the unincorporated area of Jeffco. I lived in Boulder and Lakewood for 4 and 6 years and I will never live there again. If you really like paying for- and being told what to do and how to live- those 2 cities are awesome! Also consider the court system- I do not want a City Police department or a City court system at all.

That said now we should compare Jeffco to the other front range counties. When I compare- Jeffco is the better place. Way better. Lower taxes, lowest sales taxes, easy access to most urban locations, and just far enough away to be tolarable. Comparatively speaking, Jeffco has less regulations and nasty restrictions than other front range counties but this is changing. Jeffco has an awesome park system called Jeffco Open Space(0.5% sales tax pays for open space), and we have many Denver mountain parks here as well. Total Jeffco sales tax at this time is 4.5%, one of the lowest sales taxes in the metro area. The 4.5% sales tax does not include special district tax in some areas of Jeffco.

If we could keep all these lefties from moving here, we might be able to keep taxes at a reasonable level (not likely). What we need are more conservatives moving here. The school board is a different story because it has been taken over by the teachers union- but this is happening all over the metro.

Avoid Denver and Boulder counties like the plague, because they are the plague. Living in these two counties will cost you tens of thousands of extra dollars over 25 years. Now if you really want the lowest taxes and expenses, try Park County or Clear Creek County or even Weld County. Property taxes in Clear Creek county are roughly half of what they are in Jeffco- and they have very good local services like snow plowing.

Consider what you really need to have from your local City or County government. For me it's not much. I want good services like Sheriff, road maintenance and snow plowing and an efficient court and other reasonable local services without charging me up the ying yang. If you think about all the local government services you have actually used in the last 5 years, it probably will not be much.

Choosing the wrong municipal area will cost you... alot.

PS. A friend of mine lived near University and County Line road. When he bought the house he was in unincorporated Arapahoe County and he got caught up in the City of Centennial land grab. Now he has an additional layer of government from hell! Centennial is a Home Rule Municipality and they are going hog wild with the taxes, rules and regulations..... All I can say is GET OUT!!
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Douglas County looks pretty good, less of a nanny state and they run a surplus.
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Good points about unincorporated vs. City control.

Another thing to watch out for is HOAs and Metro Districts, I personally think those are more annoying that city regs.

Don't buy a house in a metro district, and check out HOAs before you buy any condo or townhouse.

https://www.denverpost.com/2019/12/05/m ... velopment/

I'm still happy in Lakewood and like the location. Park county is good too for my mountain cabin getaway. Except for the wind and occasional barking dogs, (and having Hucklebarry for a neighbor) it is heaven.
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I totally agree about HOA's. These are hard to get around now days. HoA's can be very dangerous and evil. Over 85percent of new homes are inside a HOA. I looked for over 2 years to find a property outside a HOA. Finally found the perfect place.
Metro districts are also hard to avoid. Away from cities the way they fund fire and water departments is with a metro district. Make sure that they are managed well.
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Tarryall wrote:
Less government is better government.

:lol: :Hysterical: Look in the mirror- You are the biggest phony f*cks on earth


Stop Calling the GOP the Party of Small Government
https://reason.com/2018/05/19/stop-call ... the-party/


States that voted for Trump depend the most on ‘big government’
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/state ... 2019-06-19

Now lets talk about spending and debt..

Dear Republicans: Big budgets equal big government
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dear ... government

I'd like to think i'm the smartest most charming and handsome man in the world, but just thinking and saying it doesn't make it true- You're fascists...But you don't care for intrusive government?

:Hysterical: :gleeful: rofllol

ok..

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Josey wrote:
The Mirror wrote:I said name one

Still waiting....
you're starting to sound and debate like the ol looney guitar player lady.

Taxes and regulations? duh. my name is NN

Like allowing unlimited free open camping throughout the cities. Riots and vandals looting the city unchecked, no rule of law.
:Hysterical: Those aren't taxes and regulations, they are the opposite! That's a lack of taxes and regulations..That's total freedom ... rofllol

Josey wrote:Mandated $15 min wage clobbering small businesses. Arbitrary Taxes on big employers to pay for giveaways. There... that is at least four items, so stfu already.
I did'nt ask for items..Items? Those are vague generalities..Arbitrary Taxes on big employers ? Who Amazon? United Air Lines, no matter how many billions they make, they pay NO TAXES, in fact they suck money from our communities..

You're so full of shit
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